Sunday, January 10, 2010

Rational or not

If x and y are irrational, prove that x^y can be rational.

You only need to find one example to make the proof.

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Blogger Chris said...

Hi Cam. Are you sure that log(9)/log(2) is irrational? I expect that it probably is.

Whatever, that certainly like a reasonable response.

I've got to go out for an hour or so. I'll post the argument I saw then. It's very similar to your response.

January 10, 2010 8:07 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

My post was a response to your first post. I don;t think I'd be stiking my neck too far out if I accepted, that at least one pair of primes (a,b) have logarithms that are independently irrational.

The version I saw didn't use logarithms. It only used sqrt(2).

January 10, 2010 8:13 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

Hi Cam. I've got to do some work now (intermittently). But thanks for that log stuff. I don't recall having seen that before - very nice.

January 10, 2010 11:51 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

Hate working, love this stuff.

The thing that caused me to post was, let y = rt2 = Sqrt(2) and x = rt2^rt2. If x is rational, we're finished, but if it is irrational then x^y = (rt2^rt2)^rt2 = rt2^(rt2^2) = rt2^2 = 2 and we're finished. Either way we've go at least one case that satisfies the problem. I rather like that argument. Of course, we haven't determined if rt2^rt2 is irrational, we've only said either it is or it isn't and hope that the law of [the] excluded middle holds.

I think your answer is better, as it is immediately obvious that there are at least countably infinite cases that do it.

January 10, 2010 12:16 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

... your answer is even better than I acknowledged. Mine only demonstrated existence.

January 13, 2010 6:51 PM  

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