Sunday, January 24, 2010

Angular Velocity

Just above a merry-go-round, a 35-kg child rests on a low hanging tree limb. The merry-go-round is a solid disk of radius 2.0 m and a mass of 160 kg. It is spinning at 3.0 rpms. The child gently drops onto the merry-go-round at a point 1.0 m from the center.

Spinning together, what is the new angular velocity?


(okay ... Knightmare talked me into it ... maybe one good puzzle a day ... and a genuine thanks to everyone who expressed appreciation for my puzzle posting efforts)

10 Comments:

Anonymous Zaux said...

Chris ... thanks for your nice comment ... I appreciate it.

January 24, 2010 10:01 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

2.844... rpm

January 24, 2010 3:35 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

... and you're welcome.

January 24, 2010 3:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Angular Velocity

Angular momentum , H, is momentum about a radius
w is angular velocity
m is point mass at radius r
H=m*v*r=m*w*r*r=m*w*r^2

So to find moment um of a solid disc
p=density
imagine small strips of width dr about centre
H=integral 0 to r [m_strip*r^2 *w*dr]
H=integral o to r [(p*2*Pi*r)*r^2*w*dr]
H=1/2*p*Pi*w*r^4
but mass of disk, md = Pi*r^2*p
H=1/2*md*w*r^2

Conservation of momentum
Hdisk1=Hdisk2+Hchild
1/2*md*r^2*w1=1/2*md*r^2*w2+mcc*rc^2*w2
w1/w2=(1/2*md*r^2+mc*rc^2)/( 1/2*md*r^2)
w1/w2=1+ (mc*rc^2)/( 1/2*md*r^2)

w1/w2=1+(35*1^2)/(0.5*160*2^2)

w1/w2=1.109375
w2=w1/1.109375=3/1.109375=2.704225 rpm

Answer:
The new angular velocity is 2.704225 rpm

Cam

January 24, 2010 5:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zaux,

Can't thank you enough for all the puzzle posts. You've been awesome.

Cam

January 24, 2010 5:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm... my answer is a bit different from Chris's. I'm scanning for mistakes now.....

Cam

January 24, 2010 5:12 PM  
Anonymous Zaux said...

Hi Cam ... thanks for the nice words ... I really appreciate it. I'm not nearly the mathematician you and Chris are ... but, I just love puzzles, games, on-line mmorpgs, and competition of any nature.

The published answer is 2.7 rpms, and knowing your skills, I suspect 2.704225 is dead on.

January 24, 2010 5:25 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

Didn't know that you did physics ones Cam.

I simply remembered (but verified) that I = ½MR² for a disc.

For the kid (as radius = 1) moment of inertia = mr²
J = angular momentum = Iω
J = ½MR²ω = (½MR² + mr²)w, where w is final angular speed
M = 160, R = 2, m =35 r = 1 => ½MR² = 320 and mr² = 35.

final rpm = 3*320/(320+35) = 2.7042.. (same as Cam)

How embarrassing. I did the right physics when I posted, but must
have miskeyed in the calculator.

January 24, 2010 5:32 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

I goofed 2²/2 so did 3*640/(640+35).

January 24, 2010 5:37 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

Cam. I'm sorry that I caused you extra work.

January 24, 2010 5:46 PM  

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